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az0k's Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicle Tv Review

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Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicle tv Review

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1. ArtificialRaindrop Nov 09, 2007

   Quote by azokLike I said in my review on Bleach, I won�t write long reviews for Shonen/Shojo works anymore since they are basically the same stuff over and over again and I already covered all I wanted to say about this genre in there.

   In others, you shouldn't be writing reviews, period.

   I would have thought you would have taken to heart some of the good advice others gave you in your last review, but you're either too stubborn to listen or just don't get it. I don't like sounding mean or getting upset with people, but all you've done in this review is complain about things you "don't understand" and you even said things like "and no one can convince me otherwise"... If you're going into the review with an already biased mindset about the genre DON"T REVIEW IT. Except, well, this isn't a review so much as you complaining without giving pros and cons. You took things you didn't like and feebly attempted to back them up (and poorly so).

   Also a lot of your points aren't even true. Really, the only one that is right is that it's repetitive, it's like you just overlooked everything else in the story.

   Also, just because you didn't like certainly doesn't qualify it as a failure. The fact that it's selling so well and has such an amazing fanbase says that it wasn't, being as the word "failure" improves it well... failed. Maybe if you said it failed your personal expectations, but just because you hate it doesn't mean it fails as a whole. Come on, I hate Naruto and Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children, but just because I think they are lousy doesn't mean they "failed".

   If anything fails, this review does.

2. az0k Nov 09, 2007

   I have no idea where you get the "biased" idea from. And I'm surprised when you said "a lot of your points aren't even true". I'd appreciate it if you can give me some examples on this. Besides, I never said "no one can convince me otherwise", what I said was "you can try to convince me". Maybe it didn't come out right but that means I welcome any feedback or discussions, and I'll change my opinion if the feedbacks are rational and make sense.

   Now regarding your "the only one that is right is that it's repetitive" response. You are right. Personally I do think that when a story gets repetitive FROM THE START, the story sucks. I'm no great writer but isn't it a well known fact that one needs to have a point before one writes a story. Therefore when I watch any animes or any episodes, the first thing I ask myself is what does the author/producer try to tell the audience? But how do I get the answer? One way to do it is to simplify things. Get rid of the fancy fights, get rid of the cute little conversations, and in the end you have the core of the story, and then you judge 1.if the story is original and 2.if the theme is deep. I'm not saying conversations, thoughts, fights, behaviours are unnecessary but without a good story there is no way to add these things on. Now what does Tsubasa have to offer? If I remember if correctly, the first arc deals with Shoran acquired some fire magic and obtained a feather by beating up a guy. THe second arc deals with the party went to a city and there is this evil lord and shoran beat up the evil guy again and got the feather. The third arc I forgot but I'm sure it's the same stuff. Obviously it's repetitive. And what are the points the author trying to send to the readers? The only one I got so far is beating up the bad guys. Why would I spend my time reading this kindergarden story about beating up bad guys one after another? Also, how does these miniarcs contribute to the main storyline, if it even has one? Do these evil guys show up later in the series? No. Do the characters change through these experience? No. Do the story progress? No. Therefore, the story itself is pointless.

3. ArtificialRaindrop Nov 09, 2007

   I can see this is going to be long. Here's the dictionary.com definition of bias (same in the Webster Dictionary, too).
   

   Quote: Bias
   noun
   1. a partiality that prevents objective consideration of an issue or situation

   Quote by az0kBefore you guys call me an idiot again, let me just say that the highest score I�¢ï¿½ï¿½ll ever give to a Shonen work is 5.

   Quote by az0kLike I said in my review on Bleach, I won�¢ï¿½ï¿½t write long reviews for Shonen/Shojo works anymore since they are basically the same stuff over and over again and I already covered all I wanted to say about this genre in there.

   And you don't see that you're biased?

   And what manga/anime is there that doesn't fall into either of those two categories (Shounen/Shoujo)? That's kinda the starting categorization for all animes, and if that's wrong I'd like for someone else to fill me in. Also, if it's the same stuff over and over, why do you bother reviewing them, or even watching them for that matter? Thats far too generic of an accusation for anyone to make. They may have common themes and such, but very few shows are that similar if you look at them objectively.

   Quote by az0kTherefore when I watch any animes or any episodes, the first thing I ask myself is what does the author/producer try to tell the audience? But how do I get the answer? One way to do it is to simplify things. Get rid of the fancy fights, get rid of the cute little conversations, and in the end you have the core of the story, and then you judge 1.if the story is original and 2.if the theme is deep. I'm not saying conversations, thoughts, fights, behaviours are unnecessary but without a good story there is no way to add these things on.

   
   The problem is you CAN'T just chuck the "fancy fights" and "cute little conversations", those are part of what build on the story, and in those conversations is where you learn the other things you are looking for like depth. Maybe not all of those conversations are like that and fights can be overdone, but some of them are. Judging the depth of the theme is something that isn't easy to do when the series isn't finished because you can't look at it as a whole and see how everything turned out and what it led to.

   Quote by az0kTHe second arc deals with the party went to a city and there is this evil lord and shoran beat up the evil guy again and got the feather. The third arc I forgot but I'm sure it's the same stuff. Obviously it's repetitive. And what are the points the author trying to send to the readers? The only one I got so far is beating up the bad guys. Why would I spend my time reading this kindergarden story about beating up bad guys one after another?

   First off, its Syaoran, not Shoran (and you keep misusing the word "gay". You do realize it means "happy", or "homosexual", right? I'm assuming you are using it in place of the word "stupid", which is not a very good word to be thrown in a review because it generally shows a lack of maturity). Secondly, you seem to have missed the underlying messages (I say underlying, but they are rather obvious if you actually pay attention). The story isn't just about beating up bad guys, it's a web of relationships that is touched on the further you get into the story, and this also answers about more character conflicts (I'm reading the release of the manga in the US, so I will admit I'm behind on somethings).

   1.There is the constant theme of what trials love can withstand, as Sakura has lost her memories of Syaoran whom she loved- a price both of them had to pay to save her life- but over the course of the series you can see that she doesn't need them to love him, she finds that again as she meets him all over again.
   2.Kurogane's conflict is more so something in his past: you learned about his hardships and loss and what makes him want to be the strongest fighter that he can be. It's case where at first glance he seems shallow, but over the course of the story you see there is something deeper that makes him tick.

   And those are just a few examples.

   Quote by az0kCharacters are very boring. Sakura is the most boring female lead I have ever seen. I completely agree with what Newtype said about how she has �¢ï¿½ï¿½the most shining smile�¢ï¿½ï¿½, because that�¢ï¿½ï¿½s all she has!

   
   Umm...Yeah. That's all she had when she lost her memory. Sure, her shining smile is her most notable and recognizable feature, but it's supposed to be an outward show of the overflowing kindness in her. She 's willing to help anyone out and work hard with the guys to help recover her own feathers and she has a strong will. That may be "all she has", but that's a *heck* of a lot when put in perspective with the trials she is undergoing.

   Quote by az0kAlso, how does these miniarcs contribute to the main storyline, if it even has one? Do these evil guys show up later in the series? No. Do the characters change through these experience? No. Do the story progress? No. Therefore, the story itself is pointless.

   Being as the series hasn't even finished yet it's kind of expected that a lot of those things aren't answered yet. It would be far more "kindergarten"- as you seem to like to put it- for them to throw this information at you and move on, as that wouldn't give it any time to gain depth. You can't declare a story pointless when it hasn't even been completed, because you haven't seen how everything ties together. Will it all tie together? Who knows, I seriously doubt you do, I don't know, only CLAMP does.

   Now that I think about it...

   Quote by Minitokyo FAQ PolicyYou may not submit reviews for unfinished series. Minitokyo aims to provide members with a holistic view of different series, and you must wait until a series finishes airing or serialization before submitting a review.

   You aren't the only one guilty of this, as there are several reviews for Tsubasa. It's a better idea that way, so people don't start declaring things just because they don't personally get it.

   Look, I'm not trying to be mean to you. I really just don't feel that you thought this over well enough before you starting writing, and whether or not you intended for it to come out this way it's a bunch of ranting and not a helpful objective view of the series. It sounds more like you are harping on it for maybe being over-hyped rather than speaking to people who haven't read it and are genuinely interested or curious. That's the point of reviews, not to bash them. If you can't be objective about it it won't be a good review and that isn't fair to the people who really want to find out about a series.

   Quote by az0kand I'll change my opinion if the feedbacks are rational and make sense.

   
   I think this might be part of the problem. It's not about you changing your opinions, everyone has a right to there own whether or not others agree with it. The problem is that you are using your opinions in place of an objective view of the series. Things that may have merit in your review are clouded by the feeling of "I hate Shounen/Shoujo series" and that severely detracts from the credibility of the review. The place for giving your personal, short (which you seem to like) review of a series is under the personal Category Watchlist, which is more for us at Minitokyo to give our personal ratings for series, objective or not. The review should be more in-depth, unbiased, and be aimed at showing readers what the series has, good and bad. Not a place to rant, that's for the forums.

   This is what a review should not be:

   Quote: Subjective
   placing excessive emphasis on one's own moods, attitudes, opinions, etc.; unduly egocentric.

4. az0k Nov 09, 2007

   "The fact that it's selling so well and has such an amazing fanbase says that it wasn't, being as the word "failure" improves it well... failed"

   Selling well doesn't prove anything. I think the problem with today's anime fans is that they are overwhelmed by the beautiful style of anime that they simply ignore what truly makes a show great. Just last week I talked to a long-time Clamp fan. I asked her why a lot of people like Clamp's work so much, and the answer she gave to me was "because Clamp know how to draw their characters so good-looking". And I believe she spoke the truly, be it childish or not. If you go to any Clamp forums, all they care about is "omg hime is so cute" and "how come Kurogane and Fay haven't had sex yet?". Seriously wth is that...?

   I also don't understand why you are so against me writing reviews with my opinions in it. Why would I use someone else's standard to rate a show? And isn't that what a review is? Give people your opinions on the show instead of just writing a synopsis? What I usually do is give my opinions and use ample examples to support them. Well maybe not for this one because like I said I already stated most of my reasonings in my Bleach review. But if you want some examples I'll give you examples. I commented that the humours are gay in this show. Here is an example.
   Kurogane (to Fay and Monoka after monoka mimiced his voice): I'll kill both of you.
   Fay: O no daddy is mad.
   Monoka: This is my one of my 108 secret techniques.
   Fay: That is so cute.
   ...
   Do I really need to say more?

   merged: 11-10-2007 ~ 05:55am
   I don't know how to use the quote system on this forum so I'll just do this manually.

   "And what manga/anime is there that doesn't fall into either of those two categories (Shounen/Shoujo)? That's kinda the starting categorization for all animes, and if that's wrong I'd like for someone else to fill me in. Also, if it's the same stuff over and over, why do you bother reviewing them, or even watching them for that matter? Thats far too generic of an accusation for anyone to make. They may have common themes and such, but very few shows are that similar if you look at them objectively. "

   Yeah that one is my bad. Someone told me already. What I meant is a subgenre of Shonen/shojo which deals primarily with a thirteen~sixteen year-old who saves world and goes through these basic routines: 1. tragic pasts. 2. continuing power-up 3.there must be a final boss 4.when his friends are in dangeer, he gets pissed and powers up and saves the day and becomes a hero. 5.must be gifted or have immense potential from the start.

   
   "The problem is you CAN'T just chuck the "fancy fights" and "cute little conversations", those are part of what build on the story, and in those conversations is where you learn the other things you are looking for like depth. Maybe not all of those conversations are like that and fights can be overdone, but some of them are. Judging the depth of the theme is something that isn't easy to do when the series isn't finished because you can't look at it as a whole and see how everything turned out and what it led to. "

   I have to say I can't agree with you on this one. What does them travelling to the first world and the second world contribute to the entire story? I never said thoughts and in-depth conversations are unimportant. Quite the contrary, like I wrote in my Bleach review, good character development comes from thoughts, behavious, decisions, converstaions, facial expressions, which are what Tsubasa lacks the most. Give me one example where Tsubasa actually has an in-depth dialogue or thoughts.

   
   "There is the constant theme of what trials love can withstand, as Sakura has lost her memories of Syaoran whom she loved- a price both of them had to pay to save her life- but over the course of the series you can see that she doesn't need them to love him, she finds that again as she meets him all over again."

   Firstable this theme has been done millions of times so what makes Tsubasa so special? Second relationship doesn't work that way. A relationship stems out from communication, then understanding, last trust. The real trials are the conflicts between the lovers. To protect someone you love, to even sacrifice yourself for her sake, but without considering her feelings, brings only tragedies, as stated clearly in Episode 23 of Eureka Seven, or Chapter 70~137 of Suzuka. A story about a prince risking everything to save his princess is a fairy tale and a fairy tale is made for little kids.

   
   "Kurogane's conflict is more so something in his past: you learned about his hardships and loss and what makes him want to be the strongest fighter that he can be. It's case where at first glance he seems shallow, but over the course of the story you see there is something deeper that makes him tick."

   I'm not particularly against creating a tragic past for you character. But this should be done through recurring motifs, not by writing an entire volume dedicated to his past and never mention it against and expect us readers to accept who he is. A good way to bring up a tragic past would be constantly showing that motif in a not very obvioius way and through that connects the present to the past.

   "Being as the series hasn't even finished yet it's kind of expected that a lot of those things aren't answered yet. It would be far more "kindergarten"- as you seem to like to put it- for them to throw this information at you and move on, as that wouldn't give it any time to gain depth. "

   It's already at Chapter 170 something. And like I said earlier, if you want to bring up something from earlier chapters, use recurring motifs, keep the readers aware that this thing happened in the past and it does have a relationship with what's going on right now (although I seriouly doubt how beating up bad guys would contribute to the future story except maybe they'll all show up to help the party but that's just even worse).

5. ArtificialRaindrop Nov 10, 2007

   I'm getting the impression you are choosing not to listen rather than attempting to be reasonable. If you really encourage critiquing and other peoples inputs so much on your reviews you shouldn't get so angry when people share their two cents.

   Quote by az0kSelling well doesn't prove anything. I think the problem with today's anime fans is that they are overwhelmed by the beautiful style of anime that they simply ignore what truly makes a show great. Just last week I talked to a long-time Clamp fan. I asked her why a lot of people like Clamp's work so much, and the answer she gave to me was "because Clamp know how to draw their characters so good-looking". And I believe she spoke the truly, be it childish or not. If you go to any Clamp forums, all they care about is "omg hime is so cute" and "how come Kurogane and Fay haven't had sex yet?". Seriously wth is that...?

   Selling doesn't prove EVERYTHING, but saying it doesn't prove anything is just a childish way of trying to close that line of thought. You aren't even saying what it "failed" at doing. You even stated you didn't get what Tsubasa was trying to accomplish, so you can't argue that it failed it's story when you don't get what's going on. You can't say it failed in sales because it's making CLAMP a fortune in merchandising and advertisement. So what does it fail at? Meeting your expectations? That hardly constitutes implying it's a complete failure. With your attitude that you are giving I'm curious to know what you think is a good series.

   And another thing, you are lumping everyone that likes CLAMP into one group just by a few experiences you have seen to have had, which is only showing how narrow your vision is. There are plenty of people out there who like CLAMP works for solid reasons, and there are plenty of people who like other series by other people who shallow reasons. Who cares? That's not a fault of the show, that has to do with individual people. And asking one person why a lot of people doesn't tell you anything about other people, just what that one person thinks.

   Quote by az0kI also don't understand why you are so against me writing reviews with my opinions in it. Why would I use someone else's standard to rate a show? And isn't that what a review is? Give people your opinions on the show instead of just writing a synopsis? What I usually do is give my opinions and use ample examples to support them. Well maybe not for this one because like I said I already stated most of my reasonings in my Bleach review. But if you want some examples I'll give you examples. I commented that the humours are gay in this show. Here is an example.
   

   
   I never claimed it was clever humor. The way you worded everything (and your quick to resentment attitude) gave off the impression you had no idea what you were talking about. As for your opinions, I also never said that having opinions in a review is wrong, quite frankly I think it would be impossible to write one without ever putting one in there. That's just how humans are. The problem is (which I think you are deliberately ignoring) that you are drowning the review in your opinions rather than giving an objective look. Another problem is that you shouldn't tell people "if you want my view on this series, check out this other one I review". Not only does that make it pointless to review the second series, they aren't even in the same type of genre.

   Quote by az0kYeah that one is my bad. Someone told me already. What I meant is a subgenre of Shonen/shojo which deals primarily with a thirteen~sixteen year-old who saves world and goes through these basic routines: 1. tragic pasts. 2. continuing power-up 3.there must be a final boss 4.when his friends are in dangeer, he gets pissed and powers up and saves the day and becomes a hero. 5.must be gifted or have immense potential from the start.

   That helps that you cleared that up. The thing is those are themes that make it a genre (we wouldn't exactly have genres if everything was totally different :sweat: ). I'm not trying to say those are good things and I personally agree that it gets pretty old, but you can't hurt the show for that. I think a better way to look at that is "how does this show compare with others within this genre"? If you don't like any of the shows... well, that's probably a good sign that you shouldn't review it to be fair. And on the same note, people who are fanatics for it shouldn't either, because all they will see is the good and overlook the bad. This brings me back to opinions. I think the problem isn't so much your opinions, but the fact that it felt repeatedly that you state your opinions like facts and that people who disagree are losers isn't a good way to make a review :sweat: People reading it shouldn't feel like they are being looked down on. Maybe you didn't mean for it to come off that way, but it really does.

   Quote by az0kI have to say I can't agree with you on this one. What does them travelling to the first world and the second world contribute to the entire story? I never said thoughts and in-depth conversations are unimportant. Quite the contrary, like I wrote in my Bleach review, good character development comes from thoughts, behavious, decisions, converstaions, facial expressions, which are what Tsubasa lacks the most. Give me one example where Tsubasa actually has an in-depth dialogue or thoughts.

   
   And as I said in the section you quoted of me, you haven't seen the end (no one has). It's hard to look at the big picture and see how it all ties together when the big picture isn't even completed. Anyone that tries to do that is only kidding themselves, or making theories. I'm not sure where you get that Tsubasa is lacking in "thoughts, behaviors, decisions, conversations" (though I sort of agree on the facial expressions... ever since they changed artists the characters don't seem quite as expressive in that regard -_-). Honestly, I can't think of ANY manga that I've read that has "in-depth" dialogue to the degree you seem to be placing this on. That's not a Tsubasa only flaw (if it's even a flaw), that's pretty common, for good or bad.

   Quote by az0kFirstable this theme has been done millions of times so what makes Tsubasa so special? Second relationship doesn't work that way. A relationship stems out from communication, then understanding, last trust. The real trials are the conflicts between the lovers. To protect someone you love, to even sacrifice yourself for her sake, but without considering her feelings, brings only tragedies, as stated clearly in Episode 23 of Eureka Seven, or Chapter 70~137 of Suzuka. A story about a prince risking everything to save his princess is a fairy tale and a fairy tale is made for little kids.

   
   You're starting to get off track here, but I might as well follow. Your statement about relationships is more or less a philosophy, as there isn't one single way to define what makes a relationship. And the notion you made to tragedies was part of why the people I know, atleast, like Tsubasa. And now you're declaring fairy tales... While this is true in Tsubasa, you're stepping beyond that and slapping a label on something that can be used much broader than that. And the argument that "fairy tales are for children" is no different than the ridiculous "anime is for little kids" stereotype. I guess you don't know much about fairy tales, as many are actually very gruesome and violent (especially the older ones...).

   And as for the last parts of your response... Do you realize if you had just written everything out thoroughly like this and like how you are writing with me the review would have been pretty good? You've shown that you have a clear idea of why you think what you do other than simply ranting, so why not put that effort into the review? That's an example of a good way to write a review and I've just seen you've got what it takes. You do over generalize a lot, but if you actually wrote clearly and explained your thoughts that would change the entire feel of the review. I'm not saying that would change the rating (heck, if everything got the balanced review of 7 what would be the point?), but when you can justify giving something a 3 and make it sound this thought out why be so lazy about it? Where I still disagree with the majority of everything you've said you're actually getting across where you are coming from and that's a big deal in a review rather than slapping some barely backed-up accusations for what you think is bad; now you're actually saying WHY. So why cut corners on your review? You seem to know what you are talking about in our little (understatement...) argument we seem to have going here.

6. az0k Nov 10, 2007

   "And as I said in the section you quoted of me, you haven't seen the end (no one has). It's hard to look at the big picture and see how it all ties together when the big picture isn't even completed. Anyone that tries to do that is only kidding themselves, or making theories. I'm not sure where you get that Tsubasa is lacking in "thoughts, behaviors, decisions, conversations" (though I sort of agree on the facial expressions... ever since they changed artists the characters don't seem quite as expressive in that regard ). Honestly, I can't think of ANY manga that I've read that has "in-depth" dialogue to the degree you seem to be placing this on. That's not a Tsubasa only flaw (if it's even a flaw), that's pretty common, for good or bad."

   Suzuka and Eureka Seven both have in-depth dialogues....Especially Eureka Seven. For example, in the end of Episode 15, Renton made the following comments:
   "I'm just saying, Eureka is mad because I moved the nirvash all on my own right? Because I was able to handle it better than you do? So...I always want to be by Eureka's side. I want to become her strength. Nothing will change that feelings. But that doesn't mean sitting in the copilot's seat forever. I have dreams too. Even I have things that I want to do. I don't want anyone to get in my way. i don't want anyone to interfere. I am me. I want to pilot the Nirvash even more. I want to test my stength more and more, Because I feel like I can do something right now."
   This is the best monologue I have seen in all anime shows. What makes it great is that 1. Whoever wrote it must have tons of real life experience. full of depth 2.it doesn't directly give the audience a right or wrong answer, rather a conflict exists and the audience is allowed to make his/her own choice. 3. it foreshadows the major conflict in season thus it has a point in terms of pushing the story line. On one hand, Renton's desire to try out Nirvash certainly makes sense and "Because I feel like I can do something right now" reminiscences our own thoughts back when we were still teenages. On the other hand, a subtle disturbance is set up by "I don't want anyone to get in my way". The central conflict thus is set up by this monologues, should one pursue one's own dream and concentrate on nothing but himself, or should one put his loved one's priority first? This is what I call great dialogues.

   The reason I didn't write out all these thing is that I already covered them in the Bleach review and I felt it was pretty pointless to repeat the same stuff here again. Besides, the rationale in the Bleach review is much clearer and have more examples. Again, I have no intentions to argue here and I certainly don't know where did you get the impression I was angry...I love writing out my thoughts and reasonings because well...I just love it, it's like a good way to see how my brain works.

7. tarmade Nov 10, 2007

   Woooo... Huge debate here... All i can say is... az0k... you are the one who pushed me to do the review on Bleach. Look at mine, and you can see the big difference in both our thinking, and some similarities.

   Saying that, i feel that your reviews make sense, some of it are true, but yet, more of it are based on your personal thinking. The fact that you hate shounen/shoujo animes should already be enough reason for you to retire from the anime world... So why are you still here, saying that shows sucks? I just don't get you...
   

8. az0k Nov 10, 2007

   that one is my bad. Someone told me already. What I meant is a subgenre of Shonen/shojo which deals primarily with a thirteen~sixteen year-old who saves world and goes through these basic routines: 1. tragic pasts. 2. continuing power-up 3.there must be a final boss 4.when his friends are in dangeer, he gets pissed and powers up and saves the day and becomes a hero. 5.must be gifted or have immense potential from the start.

9. Llyke Nov 11, 2007

   I completely agree with this review. It's a good thing someone is expressing another opinion to Tsubasa. I'm tired of reading review that's "OMG, CLAMP rule! SxS 4ever OTP wtf!"

   Sakura a tedious character to the extreme, no extrageration here. Since ep. 2 of the anime, I began to see her more of a luggage than a character. Damsel in distress, great smile, and that's all folks.

10. SebastianvonKane Nov 11, 2007

    I also agree. I'm not sure if that's the ranking this anime deserved, but i the end, I just came out to be pretty boring.

    LOL. There is no point!

11. ArtificialRaindrop Nov 12, 2007

    Actually, everything has a point. Whether or not you like the point or are too dense to understand it, it still has a point. It may not be a good point even, but to to say that anything doesn't have one generally is a blanket remark to hide the fact you didn't get it.

12. Wapy Nov 14, 2007

    I agree with you in some points. I must say your way of talking is somewhat rude, and we must agree that's not the perfect way to talk about something.
    Still, there are somethings I do not believe to be true: yes, most of the Shonen/Shojo mangas are simply repeating the same things we've already seen, but there are some stories out there that deserve to be nicely treated. Sometimes, we just see an anime/manga that surprises us.
    Too, I agree with some of your points over TRC: I agree that these types of characters are way too used and the story is repetitive. I did not seen it all, but I agree that it gets boring. And I must admit that I'm not a big fan of these kind of stories. I'm still waiting to be surprised.
    I wouldn't say that using these songs (like you said, the song of storm and fire) is useless.. I love those songs and I'm impressed how companies can create something really cool to keep people focused. But as you said, it's one of the few things I like.

13. az0k Nov 15, 2007

    that one is my bad. Someone told me already. What I meant is a subgenre of Shonen/shojo which deals primarily with a thirteen~sixteen year-old who saves world and goes through these basic routines: 1. tragic pasts. 2. continuing power-up 3.there must be a final boss 4.when his friends are in dangeer, he gets pissed and powers up and saves the day and becomes a hero. 5.must be gifted or have immense potential from the start.
    

14. Fairywater Nov 15, 2007

    It's sort of surprising that the sales for Tsubasa Chronicles disagrees with your review here. Now, we all have different opinions, but your opinion of things like "?t really need to see the camera fixing on a guyâ?s face for 5 seconds without him saying a word." can be explained or expanded on. You should have at least said what kind anime you prefer before Clamp fans go reading this review. Also, I suggest you read the manga; it's a bit different from the anime, and yes, Syaoran wins too much, but as you go farther, enemies get harder, you know? So read the manga and make a review for that, and I'd like to see your opinion again.

15. az0k Nov 15, 2007

    Quote by FairywaterIt's sort of surprising that the sales for Tsubasa Chronicles disagrees with your review here. Now, we all have different opinions, but your opinion of things like "?t really need to see the camera fixing on a guyâ?s face for 5 seconds without him saying a word." can be explained or expanded on. You should have at least said what kind anime you prefer before Clamp fans go reading this review. Also, I suggest you read the manga; it's a bit different from the anime, and yes, Syaoran wins too much, but as you go farther, enemies get harder, you know? So read the manga and make a review for that, and I'd like to see your opinion again.

    I did read the manga up to Chapter 167. Otherwise I wouldn't have mentioned the Real Shayron (I know I spelled it wrong). Same idol-making stuff, not even decent idol-making like Lelouche.

16. Jerrios Nov 25, 2007

    Well i somewhat agree with the reviewer that anime really really disappoint me. Those great bgm like song of storm and fire are wasted on such horrible presentation like 5 seconds focus on Syaoran's face etc. If only the anime follow closely on the manga it might be a bit better. In my opinion the manga was good the only flaw it had is that it stretches too much. In conclusion if you wanna know TRC read the manga. The anime is just destroying CLAMP's good name. Oh ya and get the soundtrack. The music are the only reason i watch TRC. I even used them in my college theater performance XD I wonder who made them....

17. 03x1047 Nov 29, 2007

    lol funny review

18. beyondmeasure Dec 06, 2007

    A horrible, terrible, and stinking-as-heck anime - my memories of that anime known as Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicles (I still have nightmares about the damned anime - help!).

    Well, despite the bias you have against TRC (anybody, faced with a calamity of TRC's scale, would slip on some points), I still give you an applause for reviewing the CLAMP's waterloo in the first place.

19. Sakura-Dust Jan 02, 2008

    Agreed!
    I always hated CCS, I got bored after the first episodes & gave up on the whole thing. It's just an anime for kids with a magical preteen girl with a clown-like wardrobe that transforms in half an hour, but during that time, of course the enemy doesn't attack her. I thought Tsubasa was better with them all grown up, I hoped for awesome bishounen. Maybe it's because of the impression CCS left me that I didn't like Tsubasa either. And you're right, Sakura is boring. The female main characters have a tendency to be alike: always smiling, always cheering everyone up, always 'with a heart of gold' and so on, which makes them boring & predictable. Anyways, I agree with what you said, perhaps a mark of 4 would've been better, but mostly, you're right!

20. compass910 Feb 15, 2008

    Maybe it would've been better if you read the manga up until the recent chapters. Sure this story is somewhat boring in the middle, and the anime is way worse than what everybody expected in the first place. The terrible seiyuu, bad artworks and sound management, also with how the anime stops abruptly in the middle of the journey without any conclusion. The OVA is better in artwork, but still does not fulfill as much as the expectation of the intense scene the manga has pictured. I admit i got bored in the 70-120ths chapter of the story because of its stagnant plot. However, later i found out that the length of the story itself is what shows the character development there. How the four main characters slowly become attached to each other as their journey goes on. The lengthy plot has practically pictures why in the end the four of them have such formidable bond. It also reveals the story's why-and-how with a slow but steady pace. Questions are answered and hints are put implicitly in the chapters that it reveals itself in the later chapters. For example, how meeting people in different worlds has slowly begin to unravel the secret behind the princess' feather and how they end up traveling to different worlds together. And in the end now that the story is coming to an end, it's not just about heroic fights and finding feathers. It's about how these four people who are struggling to deal with their past try to overcome their each and own obstacle.

    I may not sound very convincing, but that's the least i can say with your review and the great debates you got there. It's no wrong to express one's opinion, especially with open forum like this, right? But despite all that, I still think it's better to keep your opinion at least less offending and judgmental, especially for people on the opposite side... By the way, it somehow feels rather good to see a review with honest opinion, not just people praising a series senselessly... ^__^

21. xxKurumi Jul 20, 2008

    Quote: Like I said in my review on Bleach, I won't write long reviews for Shonen/Shojo works anymore since they are basically the same stuff over and over again and I already covered all I wanted to say about this genre in there.

    Your review seemed close-minded and shallow from the start. Although you cited many reasons why you hate the series/manga, you failed to point out why and specific examples that accent your claim. If you're going to flame something to the extent that you did, more description is a must. By first off stating that all shoujo/shonen is the same and that you covered everything you had to say, I wonder if you should be writing this? Besides, what if not everyone has read all your past reviews? By writing this review, you should echo your opinion of shoujo intelligently, which you obviously did not. Not only, but with that statmement you chalked every past and future shoujo/shonen anime to be the same, and, to hold that statement, I suggest you get watching, since you seem so wise to the fact.

    Your use of "over rated", persay, was very overrated in this review, only acting as verbatim. And although I agree that this series was highly repetetive and often dull, you did not give it the review it deserved, and did not fully prove to anyone why this manga/anime is bad.

    Good luck on your next review.

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